kreynet need op

^DooM^ · Post by **^DooM^** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 8:47 pm

hmm, do you mean that need ops "always" continues to send requests to services ? also if it has ops ? (normally I would see that because whenever you ask ops you actually see the serice op the bot even if it is having an op)...

no need-ops is only executed when it 'needs' ops

CosmicD · Post by **CosmicD** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:46 pm

hmm,

now I have a problem that , when i join some channel that my bot is not going to get ops it always floods the chanserv for ops....

I know I can just delete the variables in the above posts,and enter one specificly for each chan, that would be the putserv "privmsg K :op $channelname" thing.

but how do you set into the bot that on each new channel it has to put the same variable (and can be removed when needed ) ?

awyeah · Post by **awyeah** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:43 am

Tell that to the lame staff of DALnet, lamers don't even know how to code. Just to handle operserv and they think, they know everything.

I had my nicks frozen along with my bot, just because of this need-op, need-unban. Some sop deleted one of my bots and since need-op, need-unban etc were set on, they sabused services which resulted in me being a sabuser, including a 15day akill with a network services ignore.

So I would suggest, whatever you do, please do not use the need* ridiculous features. Just script your way around it, now like I have. These features really piss me off now.

CosmicD · Post by **CosmicD** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:20 am

ok,

guess "manually" is your friend then, i know very well how the irc ops of that network thinks so i had to talke it out and enter it only for channels that the bot is opped,

for me the reason for using need-op or at least need-invite is to make the bot somewhat more powerful against playful kids and all,

I know it would be less "lame?" if I would just set an sticky exempt and then ask another bot to op, but why not borrow immortality

Alchera · Post by **Alchera** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 1:21 pm

awyeah wrote:I had my nicks frozen along with my bot, just because of this need-op

Would a timer have solved this problem?

Here's what I use without a drama with DALnet:

need-op {time_chanserv #Ballarat}

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utimer 5 "time_chanserv $chan"

The proc:

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proc time_chanserv {chan} {
 if {![botisop $chan]} {
  putlog "*** Requesting ops from ChanServ on channel $chan"
  putserv "PRIVMSG $::chanservicename :op $chan $::botnick"
 }
}

I might just increase that timer a little though.

awyeah · Post by **awyeah** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:01 pm

Well a timer would have definately resolved the problem. But the eggdrop coders should have atleast a 1-2 minute time delay in the need settings so they don't flood services atleast, or well they should atleast have a variable which users can set for the delay after every delay time if the bot needs op, unban, invite etc.

And btw, 5 secs on that is very low, should be 60+ seconds or delay beleive me. These staff members think they own servers, however 95% all servers are sponsored by universities and donated by isps.

Alchera · Post by **Alchera** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:51 pm

awyeah wrote:And btw, 5 secs on that is very low

Is a bit low; decided to play safe and set it to 120.

Regarding nicks, after 5 yrs of using 12 the powers that be at DALnet suddenly decided I had too many and froze them all on me. An e-mail got all bar 2 released so, for future reference they do allow a user to hold 10 nicks.