Multiple hub bots

dexter · Post by **dexter** » Thu Nov 15, 2001 4:31 pm

Hi, i'm running a little botnet with multiple hub bots (3), and one bot connecting those bots(deedee), and al three bots are set +h. But (as in docs) deedee does only connect one hub bot, and then leeves the others disconnected. Now you must feel the quistion comming ahead you...
HOW do i let deedee connect all bots set +h, just an alternete TCL script would help? witch one? (or who want to write?)

Thanks, Arjen

Petersen · Post by **Petersen** » Thu Nov 15, 2001 5:48 pm

You're thinking about it the wrong way round. Instead of trying to make this bot connect to 3 bots, make the 3 bots each try to connect to the single bot (deedee)

dexter · Post by **dexter** » Thu Nov 15, 2001 5:51 pm

Yes, but that would make the other bots have the same troubles, and to reorganise my complete botnet, i'm just about 16 years further and it would be a hell of a job to do...

ppslim · Post by **ppslim** » Sat Nov 17, 2001 12:24 am

Well it's time to do that hell of a job then.

This is the only way to do it, and a tcl script will only complicate things.

Your botnet will be a lot nicer place once completed, and only new additions need be fidled with.

nsignific · Post by **nsignific** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 9:13 am

do you even KNOW what a hub bot is? and a leaf bot? and what READMEs are and HOWTOs and such? and what the value of a second is to someone who has to READ such questions? =) let's forget the fact that it's stupid to link every bot to every bot in the SAME botnet (if the bots even allow this, i don't know and i never will because i'll never try =) and just ask yourself... why do i want three hub bots and one leaf bot?

dexter · Post by **dexter** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 9:30 am

gees... Do you really think i'm that stupid??
i was only >>>asking<<< if someone knows another way, dweep. couse only one bot is owned by me, it would e difficult to reach everyone.

ppslim · Post by **ppslim** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 11:41 am

I am either very blind, extreamly tired or it just isn't there, but where did he say he only had one leaf?

What he is trying to do is extramly sensible, he just didn't have it setup the right way.

Multiple hubs are the best way to keep resources down. With a 80+ botnet, all tryin to connect to one hub-bot, then you will have trouble. On our botnet, we have a 3 hub system. 1 hub for each smaller group of bots owned by some1, saving us the time of maintaining the links on all there bots. These hubs then connect up to a second hub. These hubs then connect up to a single limbo bot. We went from a single hub system with 80+ bots delinking and linking all the time, to a system where delinks only hapen because of a crappy shell provider.

dexter · Post by **dexter** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 2:20 pm

Ah, exactly, i dont have that much bots, but that's about it, its more that my bot is linking 3 existing botnets, to their hub bots. And yes, i should take a limbo hub bot, i know that

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nsignific · Post by **nsignific** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 4:54 pm

what he IS saying in his post is that oen leaf bot (deedee) won't connect to all three hub bots. now explain to me how THAT'S sensible. dweeb.

dexter · Post by **dexter** » Sun Nov 25, 2001 1:44 am

if you just dont understand what the question is, just ask, there's no need at all to start yelling and insulting me.
I just want deedee to play hub bot to connect other individual hub bots, that have connected other leaf/hub bots.

ppslim · Post by **ppslim** » Sun Nov 25, 2001 8:28 am

nsignific - No, I read over it again, he refers to deedee being a hub

and one bot connecting those bots(deedee),

Note the referance to multiple bots to 1 single bot. (AKA a hub, not a leaf)

Mikee · Post by **Mikee** » Tue Nov 27, 2001 1:47 pm

On 2001-11-25 05:28, ppslim wrote:
nsignific - No, I read over it again, he refers to deedee being a hub
and one bot connecting those bots(deedee),
Note the referance to multiple bots to 1 single bot. (AKA a hub, not a leaf)

In other words, a bot is not a leaf simply because it initiates the connection to other bots.

ppslim · Post by **ppslim** » Tue Nov 27, 2001 4:10 pm

OK - lets define this more
You have 7 bots
A1, B1, B2, C1, C2, C3, C4

B1 and B2 are leafs of A1. But C1 & C2 are leafs of B1, and C3 & C4 are leafs of B2. In effect, B1 & 2 are sub-hubs. WHen you refer to bots connecting to B1, you are talking about B1 as a hub.

It all depends what part of the botnet you are talking about, as to what type of node a bot is (leaf or hub). In the context of the post above, deedee is a hub. Deedee maybe a leaf of another bot, but the context required that deedee be refered to as a hub.

nsignific · Post by **nsignific** » Wed Nov 28, 2001 10:56 am

actually a bot in the context of "connecting TO something" is a leaf. even though it may be a hub for something else.

ppslim · Post by **ppslim** » Wed Nov 28, 2001 12:04 pm

Yes, you are right, that is what a leaf is.

But you are wrong in the post above. It was still a hub, just that way he was trying to link them was wrong.