Yet another sentinel suggestion

p33r · Post by **p33r** » Tue Aug 13, 2002 7:45 am

make sentinel compartible with +RM, right now i have replace every instance of +i and +m to make it work, but it works, would be nice just to have a little config variable (or just read the nettype variable).

And probeably a emergency +im if +RM dosnt work (if the bots actualy have registerd nicknames).

just a thougt thou

p33r · Post by **p33r** » Tue Aug 13, 2002 7:48 am

if anyone dosnt know: +RM is/was a bahamut (DALnet ircd) specific mode, +R means that only registered (+r) nicks can join the chan, and +M means only registered nicks can speak. Most botnets dont register their nicks, so its quite effective. and it dosnt stop the channel activity that much

ppslim · Post by **ppslim** » Tue Aug 13, 2002 8:35 am

Dalnet is the reason why this isn't included, and likely isn't ot be in the future.

If only one network supports it, then it is just bloat for the rest of the world.

Seeing as +im is supported by 99.9% of IRCD's, it means it's compatible with 99.9% of the IRC population.

ChEaSeR · Post by **ChEaSeR** » Tue Aug 13, 2002 10:40 am

p33r modify your script with +RM!
On Our IRC NETWORK...(*UniBuG*)..we had made some changes over the script...
like +q over the channels after join flood or clones (*+q can`t join unregistered users*)
...

p33r · Post by **p33r** » Wed Aug 14, 2002 7:25 am

ppslim wrote:Dalnet is the reason why this isn't included, and likely isn't ot be in the future.

Its not dalnet im talking about, its the bahamut ircd. The bahamut ircd is used in a lot of other irc nets (and allso Unreal supports +RM, unreal isnt a good ircd, but its widely used)

If only one network supports it, then it is just bloat for the rest of the world.

again ircd.

Seeing as +im is supported by 99.9% of IRCD's, it means it's compatible with 99.9% of the IRC population.

Broad support is a good thing, and on networks that support it +RM is a lot more usersfull then +im (and makes a lot more sence then +im on bahamut based networks). I am sure there are lots of people who use sentinel on bahamut based networks, so i dont see a reason NOT to support it. But there are lots of good other networks that actualy use bahamut.

ChEaSeR: i did, i just thougt it would be nice to see +RM in the offical version as well, so people who are a bit less tcl handy then me can use it on their networks as well. And its getting nastly mixing up .tcl versions from bahamut ircds to hybrid and then having to replace everything again.

Post by **slennox** » Wed Aug 14, 2002 4:59 pm

+R was implemented long ago for the next version, and +M support is likely. +R has easily been the most requested feature for sentinel.tcl. However, I'm not working on sentinel.tcl at the moment (I never finished development/testing when the script was being overhauled during the last holiday season), so a version with this feature won't be released for some time.

Broad support is a good thing from a user perspective, not a development perspective (unless broad support is making money for the developer). More features means more development time and more variables to maintain, and increased user expectations.

p33r · Post by **p33r** » Wed Aug 14, 2002 5:18 pm

slennox wrote:+R was implemented long ago for the next version, and +M support is likely.

cool

Broad support is a good thing from a user perspective, not a development perspective (unless broad support is making money for the developer). More features means more development time and more variables to maintain, and increased user expectations.

Sadly, all the revard i can give is a heartly THANK YOU.
Hope you get the new release out soon