help with a botnet

Lfe · Post by **Lfe** » Sat Jun 15, 2002 6:23 am

i've planned a botnet which consists of 10 bots.. i would just like some feedback if it's possible to do it this way..

2 of the bots will act as hubs and each hub will have 4 bots linked to it.
the 4 leafs will share userlists with it's hub. the 2 hubs will share userlists.

is it possible to make a botnet out of this where all bots participate? (my idea is that if one hub dies, 5 bots is still operational in a botnet)

i've got a botnet up atm that is configured like this but i cant get botnetops to work.. botnetop removes the +o flag in for each bot in the userfiles.. ive read the faq about botnetops and all steps are followed correct.. how do i solve this?

best regards
Johan

Petersen · Post by **Petersen** » Sat Jun 15, 2002 9:57 am

you're using the ircd method of linking. now while this is perfectly valid for huge botnets (I'm talking at least 50 bots here), its generally unnecessary for small nets (unless you have really crap bandwidth on your hub). Standard way to do it is to have 1 hub, and then 1 or 2 althubs for when the hub dies. Makes for faster communication (as no bot will be more than 2 hops from any other) while main hub is up, and still gives redundancy

Lfe · Post by **Lfe** » Sat Jun 15, 2002 12:47 pm

thanks for your fast reply..

follow up: how do i configure an althub using the netbot tcl?

best regards
Johan

Lfe · Post by **Lfe** » Sat Jun 15, 2002 1:04 pm

dont know if this is of importance, but the highest ping i have between the bots is ~200ms , so speed is not an issue. most of the bots has <20ms to each other.. and if its possible to do it the 'ircd' way, i'd rather do it that way..

again, best regards
Johan

Petersen · Post by **Petersen** » Sat Jun 15, 2002 1:15 pm

200ms is a long time when you double it - can easily mean the difference between someone taking your chan or not. Also, the more primary hubs you have, the higher the adminstrative overhead - and 1 bot has always gotta be the master sharebot anyway, so why not just make that the primary hub?

Lfe · Post by **Lfe** » Sat Jun 15, 2002 2:49 pm

ok ill stick to one hub then.. but how do i make an alt-hub with netbots? i havent found a flag that gives a bot an althub position

Post by **slennox** » Sat Jun 15, 2002 3:46 pm

Lots of people moving straight on to netbots.tcl without being comfortable with the fundamentals of bot linking/sharing, hubs/althubs, etc... this seems to have become a problem lately.

Don't even begin to look at netbots.tcl until you have your botnet set up the way you want and a comfortable with the way it all works. Give it at least a few weeks.

Regarding the botnetop.tcl issue mentioned in your first message, I have never heard of anything like "botnetop removes the +o flag" before.

Lfe · Post by **Lfe** » Sat Jun 15, 2002 5:04 pm

not to disrespect you or anything, but i have been using eggdrops since '99.. its just that the netbots confuses me by doing the -o stuff. ill look further into it.

Lfe · Post by **Lfe** » Sat Jun 15, 2002 5:06 pm

yet again it could be my '2-hub-solution' that has a glitch and causes these problems.. ill look into the userfile sharings too

Lfe · Post by **Lfe** » Sun Jun 16, 2002 8:08 am

im back to one hub and a althub.. everything works fine now. had to be something strange with the userfile sharing that made the +o dissapear

thanks for your help